twink
interview
(January
2003)

Theres
not exactly a glut of man/animal crossover rock. There was The Animals,
of course, John Cougar Mellencamp, Billy Swan and The Boomtown Rats
but none of them were really confused about their identity, none
of them looked like a band fronted by an animal. Mike Batt was The
Wombles but a Womble isnt an animal as such and there have
been records by Pinky and Perky, Roland Rat and other puppets, but
no-one thinks theyre anything but puppets. Last year, Jim
Avignon put out the Neoangin album ("a friendly dog in an unfriendly
world") but that was under his own name about the cartoon dog.
Which brings us to Twink. An album of what could be childrens
music, on toy instruments, with a storybook, by a rabbit. Or is
it Mike Langlie?
One
thing I need to sort out first? Who is Twink? Is it you, the rabbit,
or the band?
Twink
is the name for the overall project. It's sort of like a band, but
I'm the only fixed member. Different folks contribute their musical
talents on a song-by-song basis. There are a couple of people whom
I would like to deputize as full-fledged band members, but they
have their own projects that they're very much tied to.
So
what's the rabbit called?
The
rabbit in the book was nameless for a while, but people assume he's
called Hoppity Jones (for the first track on the disc), so that
name stuck. Hoppity Jones is actually a nick-name for one of my
cats. She's pretty calm most of the time, but has these occasional
freak-outs where she hops around in circles.
Would
you be offended if I described your record as a concept album?
It's
definitely a concept record. I guess the idea is to take the listener
on a musical journey through the various moods and bizarre places
that I could push what is usually seen as a very limited-range instrument.
The rabbit's story in the book reflects that...sometimes fun, sometimes
scary. In fact, the one complaint I get the most is that the disc
and the book don't follow each other more literally.
Can
there be a follow-up to a concept album?
I
think I have a lot left to express through toy pianos. The first
album was kind of like my introductory handshake with them! A follow-up
with another picture-book is in the works, as are a "metal" EP,
and a collaboration with the electronic kiddie music artist PlaySoundz
(http://www.geocities.com/playsoundz/). A bunch of compilation CDs
are also coming out in 2003 with new Twink tracks, so I'm keeping
pretty busy.
Is
it a kids record?
It's
also sort of a kid's record, in that it's playful and whimsical,
but I also tried to express the wide emotional spectrum that children
have. Most of the bland children's music I hear being made these
days seems to ignore how complex kids really are. I wanted the album
to be something that anyone could enjoy, so the tunes are instrumental
and the book is wordless.
Have
you had any feedback from children? Have you played it to any children?
The
feedback from people has been good overall, but I'm especially happy
with the response the album gets from children. Friends and family
members have told me that their kids will bang along on their own
toys when the disc is on! Their parents must hate me. :)

Why
make it with toy instruments?
For
years I played keyboards in bands, always trying to do something
different than what other gourps around us were doing at the time.
After a while I got kind of disenchanted with the music scene, and
didn't feel like I was covering any new ground. One day a few years
ago I was working on an already frustrating project, when my equipment
quit on me. I was about to throw in the towel, and started goofing
around on a toy piano I'd found to get my mind off things. The more
I played with it the more fun I had, something I was missing in
making music. I've now got a huge collection of toy instruments,
and they're really fun to play! I'm constantly surprised by the
things I can do with them.
Did
you actually play all the instruments together as a band, or did
you stitch it all together on the computer from samples of the instruments?
Ahh,
the magic of multi-tracking! I admit to being a poor musician, especially
when fumbling with tiny piano keys. Recording a track that I'm happy
with takes forever. Most of the songs on the disc are stitched together
from countless takes and tracks. I've also made a bank of sampled
toys and funny noises to use for making rhythm tracks. Most of the
guests on the album mailed their parts to me. The downside to using
all this technology is that I still haven't found a way to translate
it into a live set-up that I'm satisfied with. I'm starting to think
of ways to focus more on an entertaining performance (like a puppet
show or something) rather than spend too much effort replicating
every note live.
I
like the idea of a puppet show. Would it tell the story from the
book?
Probably,
with some surprises thrown in. I'd like to choreograph something
that lets live players, puppets and animation work off each other
to present a single story. A woman from New Orleans named Miss Pussycat
has a fun, musical puppet show that I find inspiring.
It's
interesting to me that the melodies on the record sound like they
could have been played on toys, but the rhythms often don't. Did
you use toy drum kits?
Only
a few of the album tracks feature real percussion It's mostly electronic,
for two reasons: 1) I've always liked the sound of drum machines,
and 2) the drummers I invited to collaborate never came through!
I'm happy with how the interaction of simple instruments and programmed
beats came out, some reviewers called it techno for the Playskool
set. Still hoping for more weird percussion players to help out
though!
What's
the best instrument youve got?
As
far as toy pianos go, I've found Jaymar and Schoenhut to be the
best. Even the beat-up models from the 1950s that I have sound beautiful.
Most of my collection consist of little, weird-name brands, that
aren't really very useful musically, but I play a few notes from
them here and there for variety. Stay away from Kleinways...they
look like gorgeous little grand pianos, but all the ones I've tried
sound like old buckets.
One
of my favorite things is called a pling plong, which I ordered from
France. It looks like the guts of a music box, and it works like
a tiny player piano. You write music for it by punching holes into
a long paper card, then running it through the device by turning
a crank to trigger the tines.
Right
now I'm getting a lot of cheap electronic toy instruments. They're
quite cute...big colorful keys, animal head buttons, huge drum pads.
They're not all great, but some have terrific sounds and effects.
I'll be incorporating more of these into future releases, and hopefully
circuit-bending a few.
How
about the story book? Was that developed at the same time/before/after?
My
creative time is spent equally between music and illustration/design,
so Twink is a really satisfying project. I love unique packaging,
and I wanted to release an album that would really get people's
attention. The beauty of releasing both a CD and picture book was
that if I got tired of working on one, I could switch gears and
work on the other. Developing both simultaneously helped me figure
out the order of the tracks, to sort of match the flow of the book.
Was
that a decision you made - not to try and tie them together more?
I'm
pretty familiar with the music made by the folks that contributed,
so certain songs were written with them in mind. Many of the finished
pieces were surprising to me though. A few people that intended
to collaborate never found the time to finish their tracks, so hopefully
I can get them to climb aboard next time.
The
book illustrations had to be carefully planned ahead of time, to
create a story with proper flow, and to keep to a set number of
pages. Writing the music was just the opposite, I wanted to retain
a high degree of surprise and "happy accidents" while I figured
out what to do with my new instruments. Most tunes mutated into
something far different from what I expected. Once I had whittled
down the number of tunes to include, the challenge was to create
a track order that seemed to best reflect the dynamics of the book.
I
see you did the artwork for Printed Circuit's album "The Adventure
Game." Have you done others?
The
Printed Circuit package was a great gig! Claire saw one of my sites
(www.yipyop.com) and asked me
to design something that would compliment her music. I'm a big fan
of hers, so I jumped at the chance. My free time is pretty slim,
so I only take on projects I'm going to really enjoy and believe
in. Some of the other bands I've done work for are Plastic Nebraska
(www.plasticnebraska.com)
and Sinkcharmer (www.sinkcharmer.com),
both good friends of mine.
Have
you made other records?
My
older bands have released demos and been on CD compilations, and
I've released solo stuff under aliases, but I'm most proud of Twink
by far. There's a bunch of compilations coming out in 2003 with
new Twink tunes, and I'll be posting news about them on my site
as they're released.
mike@twink.net
www.dydpepsidisc.com
www.twink.net c/o Mike Langlie,
55 Bartlett Ave, Belmont, MA 02478, USA
[An
edit of this interview previously appeared in Careless
Talk Costs Lives]
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