broklyn
beats interview
(October
2001)

Since
its inception in 1999, Broklyn Beats has released a slow, but steady,
stream of corrupted electronic noise into the environment. While
some might regard it as pollution, those in the know recognise that
Broklyn vinyl is actually on the side of the angels. It's a sonic
anti-oxidant, scrubbing the world's airwaves clear of gloopy, gooey
bullshit music. Or is my medication too strong again?
Broklyn
Beats was founded by long-time punk, Criterion Thornton. After years
of playing sax in Minneapolis punk bands, he turned to electronics
and New York for inspiration. Broklyn Beats is anything but the
sound of the suburbs, it's the sound of the grimy city streets.
Pick any of the records from its short discography. Put it on your
stereo. You are now in NYC. A place where scuffed-up, battered funk
is forced into an ill-fitting dub suit and made to pound the sidewalks
looking for beats to sample. Brutal Police Menace is the label's
most recent compilation. This is what we made of it:
Exhibit
A, the title, suggested this was never going to be Sting's new album.
It isn't. It's a big fuck off to the NYPD. Garth Vader abuses the
Force with his Pig Pop, a slab of skunk strength jungle dub featuring
Ice T exhorting an officer to fellate the organ he uses to penetrate
his mom. Mike Ladd, aka The Infesticons, lays into the doughnut
munching fat boys with a granite-hard hip hop tirade of distortion
and disorientation with Star Trek on the telly in the background
and Jack Clang delivers a minimal treatise on the nature of plastic
bullets while a madman lamps seven shades out of a rusty pipe and
his two-fingered mate plays the keyboards. Very quickly. Best, though,
is Welmo Romero and Splice's savage Si A Plomo Vives where latin
and hip hop ram raid drum'n'bass and roar off with tyres squealing.
The
current project is called (sic). Its a series of 7" singles,
postcards from the edge, that will eventually be pulled together
into another comp, on a sister label. Once again, they are crush
collisions of fragments of the city, records fabricated entirely
of records, an act of extraordinary creativity which sounds less
like creation and more like destruction. But then there's a political
side to all the aggro as well. The music is never the full story..
Back
in the day Criterion had just moved to Brooklyn from a squat in
Barcelona via Minneapolis. "I came back to Minneapolis and decided
the only place left for me in the US was NYC. It's just like that
here for a lot of people." That was before Broklyn Beats but not
before New York had started to pulse to the rhythm of a dirty electronic
heart. "It was a place with a burgeoning electronic scene and it
was easy to play for a different crowd practically every week. Of
course that has changed in the past 4 years as the city has become
more familiar."
And
familiarity breeds contentment, right? Wrong. Very wrong. Criterion
wasn't satisfied by the abstract, unreal nature of the electronic
scene. He wanted to bring it back down to earth, he wanted to pull
the full-on emotions of real life politics into soulless, impersonal
computerised music. "I had cut my teeth working with the Profane
Existence Collective years earlier, putting out anarcho-punk like
Nausea, Doom and Atavistic, and running a newspaper. In a lot of
ways I wanted to do the same thing, but with less constrictions.
Mainly, I wanted to create a forum for politically-minded music
that wasn't preachy or, well, political."
doily,
his partner in crime, is on the same wavelength. "So much electronic
music doesn't seem to express any ideas that are relevant to real
life. You can say something relevant with abstract sounds and no
words. Obviously getting bodies to move is saying something but
I'd like to get away from the whole club mentality as well
not that I was ever really a part of it or ever will be. My shit's
too weird for that. I'd also like to get away from the whole seclusion
of the electronic musician. It's difficult to form a community of
bedroom artists who always work by themselves."
So
Broklyn Beats was formed. "No-one gets the fact that it's broken
beats from Brooklyn, probably 'cos it's not very obvious. The idea
was to play with the whole Brooklyn mythology - tough streets, rugged
beats, etc. And also address the whole gentrification going on in
this borough in the past few years, as well as our place in it all
as loft-dwelling inhabitants. Obviously we love the sound of NYC,
but we can't take it all so seriously we ain't BDP or Black
Moon but we ain't some techno offshoot either. Where do we
stand? Nowhere! We just make up some dumb name and try to mould
it into something tangible with a diverse community of individuals
behind it. I think it's safe to say that this is happening."
the
initial motivation was to get our own music out to the public; express
some ideas which we feel aren't being addressed adequately in the
present digital urban culture, a culture which all too often resembles
a staid wasteland of retroism, conceptualism, hedonism and fascism
in the silent name of fashionism.(from the Broklyn Beats web site)
That's
some agenda. "I think the label's agenda is still in its infancy.
We want to be a community-based label which pays the artists and
supports a genuine community and not just a hedonistic crowd, as
the case is in NYC. This involves creating a space for this to grow
with a lot of activity beyond the label, not to mention just talking
with people. We definitely don't want to just another label looking
to get sponsored by a distributor and playing into the music industry
games."
It's
pretty easy to see what issues are being addressed on a compilation
called Brutal Police Menace, but harder on something like Root Canal.
Criterion: "I think the other records speak for themselves, as well.
Personally, I've always been blatant with the titles I've used and
the samples I've appropriated." That's got to the problem with mostly
instrumental music, though, how do you get the message across when
there are no words? "With sample-based music, it's all a matter
of what the context is: the title, the liner notes, the graphics
and artist's live show. We aren't DJs and we look for specific stances
in all of these areas from the records we do. We try to really organise
our releases as packages, the audio, visual and text working and
thinking together. We work with a graphics group called Implode
who design everything for us and do visuals at our shows. We are
all a collective, but still growing together after 2 years."
And
the collective is growing into a cottage industry of people feeling
musical, political or some other kind of kinship. Doily: "It's rather
small, but we all see it growing infinitesimally. From the past,
we've been into all DIY punk bands doing their own thing, but they've
never broken out of that before breaking up, except maybe The Clash
or Crass or something. It would be cool to see musicians, hopefully
us, break through to a larger realm while maintaining a DIY business
sense and personable demeanour. I think without an entire band,
as it is in electronics, this may be more possible."
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The
Broklyn sound is the sound of the streets, the urban sound like
the sound of disco into hip hop was in the 70s. But how will the
sound change after the horrendous events of September 11th? Criterion:
"Well, we're still dealing with it. Everyone in our crew sat on
our roof and watched 5000 people die in front of our eyes. We were
supposed to bring France's Peace Off! crew to the World Trade Centre
subway station 4 hours later and we're just happy to be alive, as
are millions of others here. Our jobs downtown are at a standstill
and many label projects are behind now. Almost six weeks later we
still smell nothing but burned rubble and bodies throughout Manhattan
and the stories keep coming in. The US anti-globalisation movement
is dead for the time-being, but I think the label's objectives are
still the same. We were never into the glamorisation of terror or
violence well, maybe with cops.. Only a strong, healthy stance
against US imperialism and the globalisation of capital which has
created what we see now. Will the records we put out be played for
thousands at anti-WTO marches this fall, winter and spring? Sadly,
no."
doily:
"The first step is making sense of it all and continuing to digest
the sights that have been put before our eyes here. And that hasn't
quite happened for me, at least not in a musical sense. I've already
scrapped some of the concepts I had for tracks and track titles
that seem inappropriate now. I haven't yet figured out how my sound
will change more soothing for all of those tired nerves or
more aggressive to express my anger and jadedness?? It will probably
be a mixture of both. I have definitely lost some patience for dealing
with people who are "working" with us and have no focus. Not that
I ever had much.."
It
must go deeper, though. Seeing a tragedy on the scale of the World
Trade Centre disaster must cut a deep wound into the New York psyche.
"Yes, most definitely. People here understand the fragility of life
in a whole new sense, although there are still a lot of dumb muthafuckers.
Beyond that, the club scene died here months ago with the closing
of quite a few large venues. A smaller loft and free party scene
is blowing up and we're looking at having a Democrat as mayor for
the first time in 8 years. Things are positive and now more than
ever people are looking for something a little more real.. People
have been really freaked out. Never in my life have I had so many
non-small talk conversations with strangers. People here have been
staying in Brooklyn a lot more than before all of this."
This
is Broklyn, one tiny piece of the flourishing pocket of individuals
using their skills to express dissenting views: squatters, free
party people, radical ecologists, black blocs and the various artists
who make protest culture a medium for creative expression. We are
trying to discover new methods beyond aggression, preaching and
escapism. The technology has to be used in ways more beneficial
than its own destruction. (from the Broklyn Beats web site)
Sentiments
it's hard to argue with. What methods beyond aggression can we expect
from the label in the next few months? "We will be continuing our
(sic) 7" series with releases from 1-Speed Bike, (side project of
the drummer of Godspeed you Black Emperor!) I-Sound and the Broklyn
Beats Crew (Criterion, doily and DJ Churchshoes.) You can also expect
a doily 12" and a Criterion 12" by April when we tour Europe with
dj /rupture. Otherwise, we're thinking of actually going legit and
getting a business license so we can write off all of the fucking
money we have spent on gear and records and cd-rs and printer cartridges
and on and on and on.."
Where
ideals meets expense is never a pleasant place to reside. Broklyn
Beats are doing their best to bring a bit of community spirit to
the neighbourhood. www.crucial-systems.com
broklynbeats@disinfo.net
440 Broadway #3R, Brooklyn, NY 11211, USA
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